Keep it up DZ, ignore all of the facist consitution haters.

Constitution

Bruce:

You really haven't shown me that you actually understand the Constitution.

Did you come up with those amusing cliches on your own? Those sound quite a bit like the standard Retard Right talking points that have no basis in reality.

Nice run-on sentences, by the way.

I need my war washed. Are you available?

Enjoy. :)

Douche:

Well, I need my car washed sooner than 2013.

I'm guessing by your grammar and your keen arguments that you're probably available today after cleaning some toilets.

If you take a couple bucks off, I can show you the proper use of periods and commas. If you do it for free, I'll help you with the big words in the Constitution.

I'm available after 3 p.m.

bruce is the kind of guy who would seek marital advice from Newt Gingrich, but I don't think it is fair to criticize his level of education. He is currently enrolled at Beck U and doing quite well there.

I think you're giving him too much credit, Sister.

I love Bruce because there is NO difference between his level of discourse and that of any powerful Tea Party conservative from Palin to Beck to Newt. Name-calling, appeals to hysteria, and just plain making stuff up. Bruce is the voice of conservative America and it is as amusing as it is frightening.

In all do deference to the fact that Bruce and his ilk are morons who can not make a coherent sentence and are easily manipulated by charlatens like Beck et all, they have one legitimate critique, I still haven't heard much about what real imigration reform would look like coming from the left. Tea partiers will continue to gain traction on imigration until there is a comprehensive and effective solution that protects the human and economic rights of everyone involved; imigrants, current US workers, small buissnesses, etc. I wish there was as much pressure being applied to see that happen as there is to get rid of the racist/natavist laws that are coming out across the country. Why does the left still seem to me to be so reactionary to the far-right crazies instead of pro-actively and aggresivley pushing an agenda as the opposition does?

Douche:

You should go back and look at your posts. You began the insults. :)

You might want to consult Vitter if you want some GOP advice.

I'll still expect to be home by 3 p.m. Can you powerwash my deck? I'll throw in some spelling lessons as well.

Harvey:

There have been responses from the 'left' on how immigration reform should happen, but they don't generally get coverage.

First off, there should be some kind of workable amnesty. Deporting isn't feasible.

Secondly, abandon NAFTA. It has been a disaster, especially for the Mexican economy. I'll spare you the details of complex agriculture trade issues, but it destroyed the farm economy in Mexico. Most of your illegals worked in that segment back home. If you recall, Bush the father and Clinton laughed at warnings that this trade deal would result in more illegal immigration, which has doubled since it went into force.

You can also go after those that hire the illegals, and I'm not talking about the photo-op raids. Really go after them.

How is that?

As far as I can tell by your remarks, I'm guessing you probablyi don't see such things discussed. Trade policies glaze over peoples' eyes like nothing else.

Douche:

I got home a little early. Let me know when you're heading over. I need to find the nozzle for the hose.

I figured you could use my help more the Michelle Obama. I don't think those ARC jobs pay all that much.

Actually, I made one error. By the way, you're not really one to judge grammar and spelling.

Oh yeah, it's H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E.

Bruce your last screed (further proof that Rush is stealing your material) is so full of racism (Michele thinks she's a slave) and homophobia (remember Limbaugh's famous fantasy of him grabbing his own ankles and bending over for Obama?) that you sound like real liberal. Be careful - conservatives keep lists and if you deviate you're kicked out of the club.

bruce say what ever you want about Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, but at least they have never been caught having sex with a male prostitute while doing crystal meth (Ted Haggard) or been caught in a hotel room with a hooker (Jimmy Swaggart) both criminal actions by the way.

This notion that the protections of the Bill of Rights specifically and the Constitution generally apply only to the Government's treatment of American citizens is blatantly, undeniably false - for multiple reasons - yet this myth is growing, as a result of being centrally featured in "War on Terror" propaganda.

First, the U.S. Supreme Court, in 2008, issued a highly publicized opinion, in Boumediene v. Bush, which, by itself, makes clear how false is the claim that the Constitution applies only to Americans. The Boumediene Court held that it was unconstitutional for the Military Commissions Act to deny habeas corpus rights to Guantanamo detainees, none of whom was an American citizen (indeed, the detainees were all foreign nationals outside of the U.S.). If the Constitution applied only to U.S. citizens, that decision would obviously be impossible. What's more, although the decision was 5-4, none of the 9 Justices - and not even the Bush administration - argued that the Constitution applies only to American citizens. That is such an inane, false, discredited proposition that no responsible person would ever make that claim.

"Persons" and "citizens" have entirely different meanings in the Constitution. There are a handful of instances in which the Constitution applies only to American citizens. When that is the case, the Constitution explicitly uses the word "citizens." In all other instances, it simply restricts what the Government is permitted to do generally or uses the much broader term "persons" to describe who holds the rights it guarantees.

There are, of course, certain Constitutional rights that are clearly reserved only for citizens - such as the right to vote or to hold elective office - but when that is the case, the Constitution explicitly states that to be so ("The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States"). The Fourteenth Amendment, in the very same clause, demonstrates the distinction between "citizens" (which only includes "Americans") and "persons" (which includes everyone), and proves that the former is merely a subset of the latter:

"No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive ANY PERSON of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to ANY PERSON within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

But more important, the standard rhetorical formulation being used - "extending rights to foreign Terrorists which the Constitution reserves for U.S. citizens" - suggests that Constitutional rights are for American citizens only. That is blatantly false, and anyone making that claim is either extremely ignorant or extremely dishonest.

And by the way, for the Constitutional Neanderthals out there (none is this forum), the US Constitution doesn't grant rights, it restricts the government's behavior.

How does one hear a written word?

Sorry you didn't make it today. I figured as much. If you can't handle periods and spell-check, I wouldn't want you near my car.

Good luck.

By the way, you should have used T-W-O, meaning the number, rather than T-O-O.

I'll be around tomorrow around 1 p.m. Please have my burger prepared correctly this time.

I took O'Reilly to Harlem and now Juan Williams is my new homie. What do you think I can do to you?

Bruce consistently demonstrates his contempt for those who struggle economically. This, of course, is one of the most important conservative "ideas." Bash the poor, privilege the wealthy, but shroud it in the guise of morality and patriotism.

Why does it amuse you to mock people who live in trailer parks, or to demean Michele Obama? The people who deserve scorn and mockery are those that preach family values while cheating on their spouses, or Republican governors that decry the stimulus, accept the federal bailouts that are given to their states.

Bruce - get together with your fellow cons and come up with some ideas.

Sister:

You're assuming that Douche is any better off than those in the trailer parks. Some of the staunchest 'conservatives' I know are the poorest Republicans I've ever seen. And that's not even taking into account their users of social spending, such as unemployment, disability and Medicare.

Well, at last his mother got her protein shake today. :)

bruce because you were throwing Jackson and Sharpton under the bus while the party that you seriously support has in the past pandered to interests like Haggard and Swaggart that are much more destructive then Sharpton and Jackson ever could be.
Also I noticed that you completely ignored Bernie's post that destroyed your argument about rights for non citizens in the constitution.
However bruce your posts are still very entertaining and funny; keep it up, you never fail to brighten up my day.

bruce many right wing preachers have tendencies to make anti semetic comments,Jerry Falwell said that the anti Christ was alive and was a male jew, he was also known to say that you had to love the jews because they could make more in ten minutes then anyone else could make in a life time. And lets not forget the fact that all of these preachers are homophobic, and preach that gays and lesbians are evil people because they are different. And according to you these kinds of people are not dangerous, seriously?

First of all you didn't answer the question, why is it ok for the republicans to embrace anti semetic preachers?

so you think that its ok as long as it is the republicans that embrace it, thank you for clearing that up.

stop your just embarrasing yourself, all you can do when someone proves you wrong is play the race card its just sad. Again why do you not have a problem with the republican party embracing people like John Hagee and Jerry Falwell? who are bigots, homphobes and anti semites. And lets not forget the racist Tea Party element.

Bruce is the first celebrity that I've ever corresponded with. I'm not convinced that he ghostwrites for Limbaugh. Listen to Rush for 10 seconds, then read Bruce. I'll admit that Bruce is much more intelligent than Limbaugh, but still....

A few facts: The major evangelicals, from Graham to Falwell are all notorious anti-semites. There only interest in control of Jerusalem.

Rosenbloom was not dragged from a car.

No one here has said one word about Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, so what is your fixation?

I've praised you by comparing you to the spokesman for McCain/Palin and you only insult me. Ouch.

Show some love...

should be now convinced

Dave,

First, thanks for all the good work.

Second, and more impressive, thanks for keeping out of all this commentary. B-Douche and everyone else can be quite "insightful" (read:assholic).

Another favorite right wing strategy is to use majority opinion to foment hatred and injustice - see the recent reaction to The Judge overturning California's mostly Mormon-funded anti-gay marriage law. Forty people taking a stand for what is right is more productive than all of the Tea Party mobs put together.

This boycott is going to have to be led by a broad coalition of players. What a dream.

Given that virtually every thread in these comments relates to the very first comment from some mental midget named 'bruce', and given that virtually none of these comments are related to the current article, then Dave, what's the point of having a comments section? Personally I would ban the ignorant prick' and let him get back to his 2nd job at Walmart.

I understand that's tough to do. He is a troll-master that I am convinced is pretending to be a sub-normal moron.

But I do it all the time, including whatever nonsense he writes later in this thread.

The problem with censoring one persons comments is they'll just pop up under another name (assuming they aren't already goofing around with that) , probably suggesting that comments from "bruce" are censored because they struck a nerve, or whatever.

Basically it's like using a public bathroom. You just have ignore some of the crap on the floor.

When's the last time you felt the warmth of a woman?

I'm going to guess it's been at least a year. Right?

I actually think Bruce's presence is very appropriate. Perhaps some disagree, but I maintain that he is a cruder version of the right wing power base as represented by FOX, Palin, Gingrich and LImbaugh. Like Bruce they mainly traffic in unintelligent personal attacks, a willingness to twist history and constant demonization of others. Dave's ideas are naturally going to scare the Bruce's out of their lairs.

What's sad is that Bruce doesn't realize how he is simply a pawn in the class warfare game. He is obviously to benefiting from Republican economic failures, so he has to resort to xenophobic rants that echo Rove's homophic strategies which in turn echo Willie Horton and Reagan's welfare queens.

One fact is certain - Bruce has never contributed one thing of value to this country. As we know, the vast majority of pro-war imperialist Conservatives would never consider fighting overseas or manning the border or any other deed that actually forces them to put themselves on the line.

Much easier to let others take the risks while these pathetic cowards run their mouths.

What do any of the last 10 posts have to do with the column? Enough with the spelling, grammar name calling and associated mother references. Get a room and pound on each other elsewhere.