So much for the house that Woodstein built. Rarely has the coverage of an event been so pandering, so utterly absent of objectivity than the Washington Post’s coverage of the debut of the Washington National's new stadium.
The Post reported on the ballpark's grand opening with hard-hitting articles like, "Lapping Up a Major Victory, and Luxuries, at New Stadium." Without irony, the article quoted people from the suburbs of Maryland and Virginia, about how much fun they were having playing Guitar Hero and eating authentic DC half-smokes before the big game. It should have come with coupons for the Make Your Own Teddy Bear booth, but that was nothing compared to Postsports columnist Tom Boswell, who long ago cornered the market on sloppy baseball nostalgia. The guy would sob watching home movies of Boog Powell flossing his teeth.
Some Boswell from opening night included, "Imagine 25,000 people all smiling at once. Not for a few seconds, but continuously for hours. You won't see it at a tense World Series. But when a brand new ballpark opens, especially in a city that hasn't had such an experience for 46 years, people can't help themselves."
In a nod to actual journalism, Boswell did manage to raise a few questions. "Are they worth the money? Has MLB mastered civic extortion, playing one city against another?" But have no fear. He had no answers. "That's a different story, a different day." Unfortunately it's a story over the last two years he has never written on any day. He did quote another suburban warrior making the trek into the big bad city who said, "Sometimes you got to spend money to make money." Of course, not his money, but why quibble?
Boswell was a model of restraint compared to city columnist Marc Fisher. In a piece titled, I kid thee not, "The City Opens the Ballpark,And the Fans Come Up Winner," Fisher wrote, "An investment in granite, concrete and steel buys a new retail, residential and office neighborhood. It buys the president of the United States throwing out the first ball. And it buys a son showing his father what his boy has become." (I don't even understand that last line. A son shows his father...his boy? So the father is a grandfather? Is this some sort of Southern Gothic goes to the ballpark? Maybe Fisher was just blissed out on $8 beers and making his own teddy bears.)
While Boswell and Fisher were given prime column real estate to gush, columnist Sally Jenkins didn't even get a corner of comics page. It's understandable why Jenkins, the 2002 AP sports columnist of the year, didn't get to play. Four years ago, she refused to gush: "While you're celebrating the deal to bring baseball back to Washington, understand just what it is you're getting: a large publicly financed stadium and potential sinkhole to house a team that's not very good, both of which may cost you more than you bargained for and be of questionable benefit to anybody except the wealthy owners and players. But tell that to baseball romantics, or the mayor and his people, and they act like you just called their baby ugly. It's lovely to have baseball in Washington again. But the deal that brings the Montreal Expos to Washington is an ugly baby."
Jenkins words have come to pass. But this isn't just an "ugly baby", it's Rosemary's baby. It's $611 million of tax payer money in a city that has become a ground zero of economic segregation and gentrification. $611 million over majority opposition of taxpayers and even the city council. $611 million in a city set to close down a staggering twenty-four public schools.
That's $611 million, a mere five months after a mayor commissioned study found that the District's poverty rate was the highest it had been in a decade and African-American unemployment was 51 percent. That's $611 million, in a city where the libraries shut down early and the Metro rusts over. That's a living, throbbing, reminder that the vote-deprived District of Columbia doesn't even rest on the pretense of democracy. This isn't just taxation without representation. It's a monument of avarice that will clear the working poor out of the Southeast corner of the city as surely as if they just dispensed with the baseball and used a bulldozer. This is sports as ethnic and economic cleansing, as Hurricane Katrina, as Shock Doctrine, as Green Zone. Fittingly, Fisher wrote, President George W. Bush came out to throw the first pitch. Fittingly, he was roundly booed. He stood tall on the mound nonetheless, proudly oblivious, taking center stage yet again in what can only be described as occupied territory.
Once Again, Dave Zirin gets it right. So glad to hear that Bush was roundly booed, in Occupied Territory. I believe we are getting to the point where economic boycott is our only power against this hypocrisy, and yet, it is so fun to watch the heroes play the game. Therefore, it's great to read Dave Zirin's reporting of these events.
In this country we only have sports for the rich and the elite athletes.This reminds me of the Sarah Norcliffe Cleghorn
Poem.
The Golf Links
The golf links lie so near the mill
That almost every day
The laboring children can look out
And see the men at play.
First off, I'm a big fan of your work, and look forward to the weekly articles.
This week, however, I think you might be cherry-picking a little bit. To say that the Post's coverage was pandering and absent of objectivity seems to overstate the issue to me. While a number of articles were overenthusiastic, the main article about the new stadium by architectural critic Phillip Kennicott was actually pretty harsh. He was sharply critical both of the building's appearance and its features designed to empty the pockets of the fans.
You also fail to mention an excellent article by Petula Dvorak that addresses some of the specific concerns you raise regarding segregation and gentrification. I thought she did a great job in examining how little the Nats and the stadium has done for neighborhood residents to date.
As always, I appreciate people holding the media accountable, especially when it involves important issues affecting those whose voices are often ignored. But we should be fair in assessing them as well, lest we become the pot calling the kettle black.
ps-I tried to add links to the articles, but that seems to cause comments to be dismissed as spam. Maybe you can add them?
I live in KC and am amazed that 2 years ago the Chiefs and Royals were voted so much tax money to bring their stadiums up to "par".
However, I would like to know what country has the best model regarding how the government deals wtih the desire of the populace to enjoy a favorite sport and its athletes?
What is their formula? Who does it better?Cuba? England? Spain? Russia? Japan?
The best players from all of those countries want to come here to work. If another country was doing it better, why would the players want to come here?
I was at the opener on Sunday. I thought the stadium was well done, although I thought the Build a Bear and $7.50 beers were a bit over the top (can't I buy a 6 pack of Bud light for $7.50?) Of course the game had a great ending, and I had an awesome time booing Bush.
But I couldn't kick the feeling of being in this area of the city, that most people in that stadium would have dreaded to go to only months earlier. It seemed wrong to me that this area was being invaded in some sort of way, and because of this new stadium, someone's home would be forever changed. Yes, there will be new condos and businesses in that area, but who is going to be kicked out, and where will they go. I believe that along with any new stadium and development in the city, there should be an equal effort to build affordable housing for those who will inevitably be displaced.
Washington D.C. can fund a new stadium...yet the city can't manage to have a hospital...perhaps a case of putting the cart before the horse.
Mr. Zirin is dead on with his criticism of the Nationals' new stadium, stadium deals in general, the soft-headed writing of Boswell, and, of course, the obliviousness of Bush.
But before we get all excited about the Post's Sally Jenkins, let's take a moment to recall that she wrote this in her Post column of August 29, 2005: "First, let's get rid of the idea that ID (intelligent design) is a form of sly creationism. It isn't." Except that it is, Sally!
So, if we're praising sports columnists, lets stick to those who are less gullible and aren't acting as waterboys for the anti-science creation movement.
Your thought process:
"Must... get... spotlight... but everyone else is writing an article about how great the new park is! If I write an article about how great the new park is, no one will pay attention to ME... I know! I'll write an article about how BAD the park is! Then people will pay attention to me!!!"
Get a life, you clown.
Shouldn't the owner be forced to give back some of the $611,000,000 that he has received from the people of Washington DC? Is there a way that a percentage of ticket sales could be directed back into the city's funds to pay for public schools, hospitals, affordable housing, etc? I mean, I know it would take a lot more than a few people talking about how big of an outrage this is, but certainly if a few million people were behind it... or maybe I'm just dreaming.
Another person promoting the ridiculous canard that if this money wasn't used for the stadium, it would be used on the schools. Please, do some research on where the money is coming from to finance this stadium.
One, the owners are paying $5.5 million in lease payments a year. That doesn't sound like government tax money to me.
Then, there's the $14 million or so a year that's coming from taxes on tickets and concessions. That means that people, like me, who live in Maryland and go to the games are helping to pay for the stadium. And people who live in D.C. and never go to the game won't ever have to pay that tax.
And then there's the $20 million or so a year coming from a gross receipts tax on businesses which make more than $3 million a year. That's a new tax that wouldn't exist without the ballpark, and one the business community backed because they wanted to see the Southeast waterfront developed. So does this tax, in the end, result in some higher prices for goods and services for District residents? Yeah, probably. You can criticize that. But I highly doubt that this revenue stream would even exist without the ballpark. It wouldn't have been supported by the business community and probably wouldn't have been passed. And it certainly wouldn't (for better or for worse) have gone to the schools.
The stadium itself will become a needed source of jobs in SE, but I do wish that those developing the surrounding areas had bothered to give a damn about current residents. Hopefully the franchise will look out for area residents by providing more (and better paying) jobs as well as making it possible for them to attend the games themselves.
DC Schools aren't failing out of a lack of funding.
Oh, and not everybody at the stadium drove in from McLean and Bethesda, just the ones who left really early.
TO Ken: you make a good point about the article by Petula Dvorak, which was agood piece. But the Dvorak piece wasn’t published online with the immediacy of the Boswell piece and the Fisher piece and wasn’t there for me to consider when assessing the Post’s coverage. As for the Phillip Kennicott piece on the architecture. Part of the point is that whether the stadium is Camden Yards sparkling or Shea repulsive, it’s not worth $611 million. But I’m glad you mentioned the Dvorak, which I can’t post either, but people should google.
To Greg: You’re right. There is no question that public subsidies for stadiums has increased revenue and increased salaries and makes players from all over the world want to come and play here. But the fact that stadium subsidies now act as a substitute for urban policy in this country means that what is good for player’s salaries is not good for the working poor of urban America. I don’t blame players. Not at all. But there is a reason the US just ranked 20th in a list of quality of life in countries throughout the world.
To Steve. So I should pretend to be happy about a $611 million rup off because…. Everyone else is happy? Make a real argument or move on.
To Eric and Unsilent. The problem in DC schools is a money issue. I tell you as a former DCPS teacher and as someone married to a teacher. DC spends an incredible amount of money “per pupil” but the overwhelming majority of that money goes to repairing dilapidated buildings and funding a mammoth bureaucracy. Teachers of DC are some of the lowest paid in the country. Books and materials that pupils actually use are pathetic. Art, music, and PE programs are few and far between. It’s a disgrace. The idea that the Lerners are somehow paying out the nose for a stadium that everyone says is the mother of sweetheart deals is ridiculous.
DC is only the latest, and soon to be overtaken by the new Mets and Yankees stadia in NY. We know HOW these greedy bastards do it, all the glad-handing, good-ole-boy stuff, and the opportunity to shake hands with A-Rod or get in a photo-op with Johan and Pedro. (Hell, just look at the way all but a few of our congressional rodents stumbled over their own tongues trying to get close to Roger.) But bottom line, what they always have and pretty much always can count on is our silence, our acquiescence. Just as the current imperial presidency has learned from a Roman emperor, Caligula, that as long as the people are afraid the ruler can safely bask in their hatred, our sports moguls have learned from another Roman tradition: bread and circuses. They give us a team that might contend this year, or next? OK, we'll shut up and let them turn our pockets inside out.
Dave,
Thanks for responding to my post, but you didn't actually respond to what I wrote.
First of all, I never said the Lerners are "paying through the nose" for the stadium. All I said was that the financing agreement includes regular lease payments from the team owners. Maybe they should be bigger, but they are paying something around 4-5 million a year. That's a lot more than zero, and is evidence that the stadium is not totally publicly financed. Just because the Washington Post did a bad job reporting it and the former mayor did a horrible job of selling it doesn't change what's in the financing agreement.
And I never said that the problem with DC schools wasn't lack of money, and you very well may be correct that it is--although I think Michelle Rhee's attempt to trim some of that bureaucracy you mention seems like a better place to start fixing the schools rather than simply adding more money. What I was arguing is that the money that went to build the staduim would not have gone to the schools. And considering the other two taxes financing the stadium are a user tax (with lots of money for that tax coming in from Md. and Va.) that wouldn't exist without a team, and a tax on business passed especially because of the development springing up around the stadium, I don't see that you've provided any evidence to the contrary.
And then just as sickening as the economic facts of this sham was the blather coming from ESPN clowns Joe and Jon on opening night - of course never touching on the facts of the stadium build, and then welcoming into the booth the mass murderer who's squatting at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue to wax poetically about baseball and good ol' boy stuff.
Reverend Wright was right - but we already knew that.
As with all major sports stadium developments, its public costs that pave the way for the private gain of ownership and the players in baseball.
Taxpayers are continuously asked to fork over money for these stadiums, whether they are fans or not, and subsidize massive private enterprise at the expense of chronically underfunded urban resources.
In Toronto we don't have the type of gentirication or environmental justice issues that cities such as Washington have, but we did spend just as much money on the SkyDome which was recently bought by Ted Rogers for 20 million.
Heard on " Democracy Now " this morning :
One of six West Virginia residents receive food stamps. No baseball for them.
It's worse in other states. Even unflappable Amy was surprised.
The Chiefs got a stadium subsidy? Nice.
I understand that one of the Hunts, is one of the top ten richest people on the planet. But, you know, they can always use the extra cash.
As a DC resident (and major taxpayer) and Nationals season ticket holder, I suppose Im obliged to comment. I enjoyed the article Dave,
though I think that you were a little harsh on Boswell and the Post. Boswell is a great sportswriter in my view, one of several great ones at the post, including Sally Jenkins and Michael Wilbon, that I have enjoyed reading over the years.
And the coverage from the post was not exactly a universal ass-kissing of the Nationals, MLB and the stadium. In the style section, for example, Phillip Kennicott described the stadium as: "It is a machine for baseball and for sucking the money out of the pockets of
people who like baseball, and it makes no apologies about its purely functional design. . . . As people circulate through the stadium's
public spaces, where beer can cost $7.50 and the cheapest hot dog is $4.50, the human traffic flow unifies the two central purposes of the
building: baseball and the fleecing of baseball audiences. This circulating motion wrings money out of you like wet laundry on the
spin cycle."
While the Post doesn't need me to defend it, MLB and the city probably do if I were so inclined. Im appalled by the sheer greed of
MLB (and its players) -- its so brazen. I personally cannot conceive of a situation where it makes sense for the public to build a sports
stadium of any kind any more than it would make sense to build a WalMart. These are multibillion dollar businesses whose business
model depends on shaking down cities for their infrastructure. No wonder teams are worth hundreds of millions of dollars. As always,
the heart of this scheme is the monopolistic practices of the league that allow for this kind of extortion.
The only thing more disgraceful than the behavior of MLB is the pathetic work of our own civic leaders. MLB was out of options, and
DC held the key. Yet even with the most enviable bargaining position a city has enjoyed in recent memory, the District fell all over itself forking up more than $600 million. Nice job, guys. No wonder the city is so disfunctional. As bad as the deal was, I doubt that one dime came out of the education budget. Most comes from upping the taxes on hotels and bonds and the like.
As a season ticket holder for now my fourth year, I can honestly say that Im sure the new experience will be more "pleasant" than RFK, but I'll really miss the old stadium. It was a real DC experience, where it seemed possible that you could find a malt liquor concession if
you looked hard. The new stadium is the other DC, the national city full of lobbyists with their hands out who presumably are buying the
$250 seats. I suppose that's where all of major league sports is heading, but its sad to see. But it doesnt make it any easier to accept that your $50 seats this year are fifteen rows back of home plate as they were at RFK but now outside of first base 25 rows back.
Bravo, Dave Zirin, evanskike, Roland Sheppard, Daniel Barton, and Chris ! The illusion that sports or anything else in society occurs within a political vacuum is just that, an illusion.
Bill Solomon
Dave,
You do great work.
A very minor point. "Compared to" is used to point out similarities; "compared with" is used to point out differences.
best,
Bill Solomon
great column.
thanks for the follow-up.
How many of these jobs will actually go to the residents of DC? I'm sure that some folks will get 'lucky' with service jobs with glass ceilings - for minimum wage, temp status (no benefits) and seasonal/part time work. In an area with >50% unemployment, I highly doubt that management will feel inclined to pay anything more, citing "the market" - yet their pay will probably be comparable to management at other stadiums.
Time will tell whether this will reduce the unemployment rate and raise the standard of living.
For now, I remain cynical and doubt that DC families will have the means to attend, even if stadium employment is obtained.
Eric: don't know if you're still reading this discussion but I had a question to ask. You indicate some sources of private financing to argue that the stadium isn't completely publicly financed, but the sources you cite only tally up to $39.5 million out of a total of $611 million. Where's the other $571.5 million coming from?
This is really only half the story: the DC half. There is also the Montreal half, which includes MLB letting Loria swap teams and profit, MLB fleecing the Montreal/DC organization, and MLB leaving the city where Jackie Robinson made his professional debut.
Montreal was actually a good baseball town. Why did baseball leave? Because MLB wanted a new stadium, and as Lucien Bouchard (the Quebec Primier at the time) said, "We know that there's already a stadium in Montreal that cost a lot of money, and it's still not paid for. When we're closing hospitals it's not certain that we're going to open stadiums, especially when there's a big one there already." It was a rational, humane decision, and one that MLB couldn't live with.
The argument that the money never would've gone to the schools anyway is hardly a legitimate point. Especially considering Dave's entire point is that such funding indeed doesn't go to schools, but when someone needs $600+ million dollars for a baseball stadium DC officials find a way to come up with it in rather short time. That poverty is ignored and schools are allowed to run into the ground while hundreds of millions of tax dollars are spent for a sports stadium cannot morally be shrugged off with "well they never fund schools anyway".
As for the notes about taxes and fees that contribute a rather paltry sum relative to the total price tag, if you are refuting Dave's point about the overall expenditures then you'd do well to post some evidence that a significant amount of the total bill comes from such taxes, and that the burden on residents is minimal -- you are the one disagreeing with Dave and attempting to provide contrary data, so the responsibility is yours, not his.
The fact that the "revenue stream" from the stadium wouldn't exist without the stadium is a rather circular argument, really. And meanwhile, those higher overall prices that result in the surrounding area will impact people who can't even afford to go to the stadium itself. So indeed, that particular "revenue stream" from higher priced goods and services wouldn't exist on the backs of poorer residents if the stadium weren't around, but that kind of supports Dave's overall point, not yours.
Nice site you have http://nicksfishmarket.com/swf/sesso/
i am going to tell my friends about this site - it's just perfect! http://temporaryaudio.org/admin/toplessbeach/
OOOh! What a nice site you've got in here:)) http://grubshack.com/temp/historiadesexo/
definitely, it's a great site! http://temporaryaudio.org/admin/pollagay/
Great site you've got! I bet you're professionals! http://temporaryaudio.org/admin/teenlesbian/
information i found here was quite useful, thank you! http://westwinds.org/html/wp-content/videogratisdesexo/
the webmaster RULLLLES!! http://temporaryaudio.org/admin/chicaplaya/
definitely, it's a great site! http://westwinds.org/html/wp-content/hardcoreporn/
Here is much work done, obviously. Good site http://temporaryaudio.org/admin/chicodesnudo/
sto andando dire ai miei amici circa questo luogo - ? solo perfetto! http://temporaryaudio.org/admin/juegoeroticos/
Ringraziamenti molto! Lo avete aiutato molto! http://westwinds.org/html/wp-content/dragonballxxx/
what a nice site. i like it, yeah, I do!))) http://temporaryaudio.org/admin/vocabolario/
Aucuns doutes c'est une bonne page.. http://keepworkinggirlfriend.com/admin/canalpornogratis/
The topic is quite curious, i must say http://keepworkinggirlfriend.com/admin/canalpornogratis/
me like THAT!:) http://keepworkinggirlfriend.com/admin/penegrandes/
i am going to tell my friends about this site - it's just perfect! http://festivaldesoftwarelibre.org/tmp/chatsexo/
what a nice site. i like it, yeah, I do!))) http://festivaldesoftwarelibre.org/tmp/vehiculoocasion/
Luogo che grande avete ottenuto! Scommettevo che siete professionisti! http://festivaldesoftwarelibre.org/tmp/hardcoresex/
Luogo che grande avete ottenuto! Scommettevo che siete professionisti! http://festivaldesoftwarelibre.org/tmp/historiadesexo/
Great site, nice design http://festivaldesoftwarelibre.org/tmp/horoscoposemanal/
definitely, it's a great site! http://festivaldesoftwarelibre.org/tmp/xxxgay/
sto andando dire ai miei amici circa questo luogo - ? solo perfetto! http://festivaldesoftwarelibre.org/tmp/animexxx/
Well placed contents. I love it! http://keepworkinggirlfriend.com/admin/penegrandes/
well-well-well.. not bad. really! http://temporaryaudio.org/admin/teenlesbian/
i am going to tell my friends about this site - it's just perfect! http://veroniquecote.com/user/cheneydick/
Here is much work done, obviously. Good site http://veroniquecote.com/user/adsclassifiedfree/
i am going to tell my friends about this site - it's just perfect! http://veroniquecote.com/user/babesbrazilian/
N-Joy
http://www.esnips.com/doc/79c22395-7bd6-4299-92db-cf392e381698/kutiman---this-is-what-it-became
Bye
Hey people,
I recently registered on the forum and ee just can't help to tell you how I would be trilled to take part in this clan. For real. We think the world of the generosity of your community ;)
A bit about me:
I'm originally from India but at the moment I am travelling to the fascinating place that you read in the thread title :P. I'm extremely shy but I still enjoy cruises. I also love mountain biking.
I'm 18 y o. I am really thrilled to take part in this association.
I have a internet site too. go see it http://cpa-network.org
How's it going world,
We just signed up for the boards and I just want to say how I would love to take part in this clique. Seriously. We really like the generosity of your comradeship :D
Some info of me:
I am from China but right now I am staying to the far away place country that you read in the thread title :D. Im really introverted but I still love adventure. I also love running.
I am 24 years old. I can't wait to join this community.
I am part of a internet site too. check it out http://referencementpayant.net
Hi There
Our Crew have many years of productions in NYC.
We can assist in all aspect & stages of your production ( print / film / photo / video etc.. )
Our clients include but not limed to :
Halliburton
Hanwha
Hartford Financial Services
Hbos
HCA
Heineken
Henkel
Hewlett Packard
Hilton Group
Hindustan Petroleum
Hitachi
Hochteif
Home Depot
Honda Motor
Honeywell Intl
Hon Hai Precision Industry
Hsbc Holdings
Humana
Hutchison Whampoa
Hvb Group
Hyundai Motor
Gap
Gasunie
Gaz De France
General Dynamics
General Electric
General Motors
George Weston
Georgia Pacific
Glaxosmithkline
Goldman Sachs Group.
Goncière Euris
Goodyear Tire & Rubber
Groupama
Groupe Auchan
Groupe Caisse Dépargme
Groupe Danone
Groupe Pinault Print
GUS
Hello just thought I'd say hello, this is my first time using any kind of forum. I'm 25 from Sydney Australia, been training for about 4 years, pretty hard for the past year and a half. I'm about 5'8 and weigh 101kg currently bulking and hoping to compete earliest May 2010 as a novice. My main aim is to come in as conditioned as possible, this will be hard as I have never done this and I'm pretty scared/nervous but I know I can do it. So yeah that's a bit about me thanks for reading
Quads
Hey need something cracked? at http://codexplosion.com we crack bots for MMO's, right now we mainly focus on conquer online but soon we will expand. We have the current crack for a bot for conquer online called script vessel get it at http://codexplosion.com/downloadscriptvessel.html
Hey Everybody...
There is a site called "[b]LearntoHack.co.uk[/b]" which promises to decrypt Gmail accounts. Okay, Im an idiot who paid $100 to the site via Western Union to a guy in Vietnam named [b]Nguyen Thi Du[/b].
In short, the site is a [b]fraud[/b]. Once you pay, they don't answer emails. Do not pay to this fraud site.
Note: The site also has a couple of other names such as [b]Rayahari.net & LearntoHack.co.uk & Learn-to-Hack.com & LearntoHack.biz.[/b] All sites are hosted on the same server!
Hey, how is it going I decide to give out my favorite ringtone site to the community here is the best site for free ringtones.
They come in a sms text message.
http://bit.ly/8PU8Q2
I hope you enjoy
Aloha everybody, I am new to this forum, I have just signed up and the forum looks amazing. I am very tech savy so I will be more then thrilled to help if a person has any tech-related questions. Anyhow, I am a first time visitor who promises to become a routine visitor :-)
Merci
Plaifepygiepe
The Best Lower Bid Auction Site!
GetForCent offers bargain auctions of brand new products.
Save up to 95% for new products.
Bid and Win high quality products.
GetForCent offers amazing bargains.
GetForCent - Save $1000's on new laptops, HD TVs, Ipods and and everything else for 1 cent bid.
The Best Lower Bid Auction Site!
Bid and Win Crazy Cent Auctions on GetForCent!
GetForCent is one of the best online auction source.
GetForCent offers cent low bid auctions.
We auction out new products at incredibly low prices.
GetForCent offers bargain auctions of brand new products.
Save up to 95% for new products.
Bid and Win high quality products.
GetForCent offers amazing bargains.
http://getforcent.com
Hi Ya'll,
How is everyone?
Big plans for this new year?
Laters!!!
Cheryl S.
I just finished reading this site talking about a young kid who did all this crazy stuff, and I am amazed.
I don't know if it's still up but http://www.secretslimdown.com was interesting.
Is that cookie thing they talk about true?
IF YOU'RE STRUGGLING, OR JUST NEED LOTS OF EXTRA CASH.....
DISCOVER HOW TO TURN A TINY, ONE TIME, $5 INTO $420.00 DAILY ....$5,040.00 EVERY 12 DAYS!
YOU GET TO DO THIS WITH NO RECRUITING, NO PHONE CALLS, NO EMAILS, NO PRODUCTS TO BUY OR SELL, AND IT'S ALREADY SET UP TO PAY YOU EACH AND EVERY DAY!
HERE'S HOW IT WORKS:
WE SHOW YOU HOW TO IMMEDIATELY RECEIVE STACKS AND STACKS OF $5 PAYMENTS, 24 HOURS A DAY, 7 DAYS A WEEK, 365 DAYS A YEAR!!!...
AND, HERE'S THE FUN PART, YOU GET TO DO THIS USING A FREE WEBSITE ( NO HOSTING FEE ), AND ALL OF OUR FREE ADVERTISING SOURCES!!!...
THEN, MOST IMPORTANTLY, YOU KEEP ALL OF THE CASH!!!...
THIS IS NOT MLM, NETWORK MARKETING, GIFTING, OR ANY TYPE OF REFERRAL PROGRAM.
THIS IS SIMPLY YOUR OWN DIRECT HOME BUSINESS, WHERE YOU EASILY PROMOTE THIS EXACT SAME SERVICE, AND ALL FOR JUST ONE LIFETIME PAYMENT OF $5 ( NO HIDDEN FEES AND NO ADDITIONAL CHARGES )
IN RETURN, YOU RECEIVE THE NEVER ENDING STACKS OF $5 PAYMENTS, PAID DIRECTLY TO YOU FROM YOUR OWN FREE WEBSITE!!! ( YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO EVER TOUCHES YOUR MONEY )!!!
THIS PRGRAM IS ALL CENTERED AROUND A POWERFUL CONSUMER SAVINGS PUBLICATION, WITH ON-GOING CONSUMER SAVINGS TIPS. THIS IS COPYWRITTEN INFORMATION FROM OUR PARENT COMPANY, THE CONSUMER SAVINGS SOURCE...KEEP IN MIND, BOTH THE SAVINGS PUBLICATION AND THIS INCOME OPPORTUNITY ARE ALL INCLUDED IN THIS AWESOME MONEY MAKING PROGRAM!
http://079f2748.thesegalleries.com
http://kredyt-studencki-lenin.blogspot.com/2009/12/polityka-zagraniczna.html
http://kredyt-studencki-lenin.blogspot.com/2009/12/przyspieszenie-kredytow-studenckich.html
http://studencki-kredyt.pl/choroby-oczu/jeczmien-na-oku.html
Hi I just registered to this spacious place www.edgeofsports.com . I need to ask for your opinion.
Can you tell me please do you trade forex and if yes what forex broker do you use?
Do you know of some recommended ones?
Thanks in advance for your answers.
P.S. Sorry if I have posted to wrong category this but as you can notice I am new here.
http://studencki-kredyt.pl/choroby-oczu/jeczmien-na-oku.html
PLEASE NOTE: This forum is for dialog between Edge of Sports readers. Discuss!
Dave Zirin is the author of the book: "Welcome to the Terrordome: The Pain, Politics and Promise of Sports" (Haymarket). You can receive his column Edge of Sports, every week by going to dave@edgeofsports.com.
Please become an Edge of Sports Sustainer (Click Here)
Contact him at edgeofsports@gmail.com